Naomi Klein discusses the dangers of data centres, Steve Bannon’s hip hop musical and why our tech overlords want to be edgelords

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Wednesday, 28 October 2026 - 1 hour 10 minutes

Louis sits down with writer, activist and filmmaker Naomi Klein. They discuss Steve Bannon’s hip hop musical, why data centres are so dangerous, and the tech overlords/edgelords that inspired her latest book, End Times Fascism.  

Warnings: Strong language and adult themes.  

Links/Attachments: 

Book: End Times Fascism, Naomi Klein and Astra Taylor (2026) 

https://naomiklein.org/end-times-fascism/  

Book: Doppelganger, Naomi Klein (2023) 

https://naomiklein.org/doppelganger/  

Interview: The full-length interview with Elon Musk, The Economist (2026) 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuoqKYxDHVc  

Play: The Thing I Am, Steve Bannon (1996-1997) 

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/17/opinion/sunday/steve-bannon-hip-hop-shakespeare-rewrite-coriolanus.html  

Podcast: Bannon’s WarRoom (2019-present) 

https://open.spotify.com/show/0WyF2LaTcrpWfrTIeKjs1L  

Book: No Logo, Naomi Klein (1999) 

https://naomiklein.org/no-logo/  

 
Song: Heart of Glass, Blondie (1979) 

https://open.spotify.com/track/4v2rkl1mC3zVAz0nXMx9r4  

Documentary: Bowling for Columbine (2002) 

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0310793/  

Credits: 

Producer: Tom Fuller 

Senior Assistant Producer: Maisie Ellen Williams  

Junior Production Manager: Rosie Pender 

Production Executive: Francesca Bassett 

Original Music: Miguel D’Oliveira 

Video Editor: Scott Edwards 

Audio Editor: Tom Guest 

Series Producer: Millie Chu 

Executive Producer: Arron Fellows 

A Mindhouse Studios Production for Spotify. 

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