S8 EP2: Marco Pierre White discusses his rift with Gordon Ramsay, retiring from cooking, and having lunch with Margaret Thatcher

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Tuesday, 16 June 2026 - 1 hour 4 minutes

Louis is joined in the Spotify studio by celebrity chef and enfant terrible of the culinary world, Marco Pierre White. Marco tells Louis about his complicated history with Gordon Ramsay, the moment he walked away from his three Michelin stars, and dining out with Margaret and Dennis Thatcher.   

Warnings: Very strong language and adult themes.  

Links/Attachments: 

Instagram Video: McMarco, Marco Pierre White (2026) 

⁠https://www.instagram.com/reel/DUNvNxOjVnW/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet⁠  

Art Film: Andy Warhol Eating a Hamburger, Jørgen Leth (1982) 

⁠https://channel.louisiana.dk/video/jorgen-leth-andy-warhol-eating-hamburger⁠  

Book: The Devil in the Kitchen, Marco Pierre White & James Steen (2006) 

⁠https://www.waterstones.com/book/the-devil-in-the-kitchen/marco-pierre-white/james-steen/9780752881614⁠  

Book: White Heat, Marco Pierre White (1990) 

⁠https://www.waterstones.com/book/white-heat-25/marco-pierre-white/9781845339906⁠ 

Book: Humble Pie, Gordon Ramsay (2006) 

⁠https://harpercollins.co.uk/products/humble-pie-gordon-ramsay?variant=32544979517518⁠  

TV Show: Hell’s Kitchen (2005-present) - ITV 

⁠https://www.itv.com/watch/hells-kitchen/1a5021⁠  

Credits: 

Producer: Millie Chu  

Researcher: Mark Maughan 

Editor: Tom Fuller 

Assistant Producer: Maisie Williams 

Production Manager: Francesca Bassett  

Music: Miguel D’Oliveira  

Executive Producer: Arron Fellows  

A Mindhouse Studios Production for Spotify  

⁠www.mindhouse.co.uk⁠  

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