Sofia Franklyn: The Call Her Daddy Fallout That Cost Me Everything “the whole world turned against me”

We Need To Talk with Paul C. Brunson

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Tuesday, 10 November 2026 - 2 hours 10 minutes

What really happened between Sofia Franklyn and Alex Cooper? The Call Her Daddy fallout became one of the biggest podcast scandals on the internet, but years later, Sofia is sharing her side of the story. From the friendship that turned into a podcast empire to the betrayal that changed everything, she opens up about what went on behind the scenes and the impact it had on her life.

Beyond the headlines, Sofia reflects on her childhood, complicated family relationships and the experiences that shaped the person she became. She speaks candidly about addiction, self-destructive behaviour, navigating public scrutiny and what it was like to have millions of people form an opinion about her without knowing the full story.

Sofia also discusses her memoir, Daddy Issues, and the deeply personal experiences that inspired it. She opens up about love, marriage, therapy and learning to make peace with her past.

There's far more to Sofia's story than the Call Her Daddy fallout. This is the side of her life the headlines never told

Sofia Franklyn, We Need To Talk

Content warning: This episode includes discussion of suicidal ideation, sexual assault, substance abuse and eating disorders. Please watch with care. We’ve included links to support resources below.

Women’s Aid: https://linkly.link/2xInX

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MIND:  https://linkly.link/2dx8b

(00:00) Intro

(02:02) Sofia's Parents

(06:20) Growing Up in Utah

(14:40) Paul Shows Sofia a Childhood Photo With Her Mum

(21:25) Sofia's Rebellious Teenage Years

(34:41) Growing Up in Utah: The Good Times

(36:17) Sofia's Iconic Mugshot

(44:05) Sofia's College Years

(48:02) Sofia's Career at Morgan Stanley

(53:15) Organised Ad

(54:37) Cometeer Ad

(55:42) Moving to New York

(59:58) Sofia's Experience of Workplace Harassment at Morgan Stanley

(01:09:54) How Sofia Met Alex Cooper and Started Call Her Daddy

(01:26:23) Call Her Daddy's Deal With Barstool Sports

(01:33:50) Why Sofia and Alex Cooper Split Up

(01:45:26) Life After Being Dropped From Call Her Daddy

(01:57:01) Sofia's Marriage

(01:59:37) Most Memorable Conversation

(02:04:10) Paul's Key Takeaways

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